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My PSK31 beacon
Topic Started: Friday, 22. July 2016, 22:39 (1,391 Views)
Hemul
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I'm transmitting PSK31 on 27245 USB every three minutes the next few weeks. Feel free to monitor and see if you can pick it up.

21ct242/b, jo65mo :howdy:

Indoors, inner city, using Wonder Wand QRP tuneable loop, 12W on President Grant II. Raspberry PI and VOX in.

Been attempting to get a QSO from this QTH for years now and this is an attempt to see if it's possible at all. :cry:

I suppose the conditions need to be really really great for the signal to propagate.



In the future I also hope to be monitoring the frequency for digital traffic (PSK, JT, paket, etc), but that will require a bit of coding so perhaps this winter or so... :beer:

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Doing this is not what proper true CB RADIO is all about, pacet radio, PSK and all that stuff this is what is killing true real CB RADIO playing at Amateur Radio stuff on CB , leave this stuff for the Amateur Bands and keep CB simple for what it was originally designed for if people want to this stuff take your Amateur Licence

Life is too short, so ave a laugh now n then never know you might like it
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Nik Gnashers
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Hi Karl,
Good luck with your beacon, I'm sure some of our members will have a listen for it, and report back here if they hear you.
It sounds like your QTH is not in a good area for radio, but have you considered using a portable station, or mobile one instead ?
:) Nik
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stormy
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Hi Karl
I will be listening out for you in SW France and I'm glad that somebody is having a go at
PSK31 as this is good when SSB propagation is bad. I am set up for it so do you want any reply
between your transmissions, or would you rather just get a report through this forum?
Ian
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Hemul
Friday, 22. July 2016, 22:39
I'm transmitting PSK31 on 27245 USB every three minutes the next few weeks.

I bet those people using Ch25 CEPT throughout Europe will be well happy with having their conversations interrupted by some ham wannabe twonk spewing out PSK31 every few minutes not even wanting a reply.

Get a ham license, go on 10m where there are specific frequencies there. You could also do WSPR on 10m which would be far better for what you're trying to achieve than sending out a load of noise on Ch25 which very few people are going to have the ability to decode.
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Lycka till Hemul,
Jag hör av mig om den studsar över till York :wave:

Maybe it will not be something I will be able to read, but if I hear it I will make a recording and see if I can decipher it...

It is true that it may be better to do it as a proper ham on a proper ham band if licensed, but seeing the rather low activity on the CB frequencies anyway, I don't see the harm in some experimenting. I doubt PTS will be policing this kind of potential rule-bending actively.
For those who don't know, the regulating document in Sweden is the PTS (Post och Telestyrelsen) list of licence excempt frequencies (which by the way includes ham frequencies in Sweden as well, they instead have a requirement in that document stating that you need to have a valid ham certificate to be covered by the exception for those frequencies). In this document is only stated in 64 §, that covers the CB frequencies from 27.20 to 27.41 MHz, that the frequencies are allocated to "Radiosändare för privatradio", i.e. private radio (CB) transmitters. The document does not state explicitly that only voice transmissions are allowed, it only states the maximum e.r.p. values at FM, PM, AM (dual side band) and SSB, and channel spacing. So, judging from that document, it may be more or less ok according to the Swedish rules, as long as you use a standard radio. Still other operators may become annoyed. Just in case, it may be worth while cross referencing with the main frequency allocation table (frekvensplanen) if you don't want to step on any legal toes.

I would maybe recommend against continously throwing out the PSK31 on that one frequency for weeks with that short intervals. How long is the sequence you aim to transmit?
Maybe schedule it for a few shorter windows during the day so you don't annoy potential other users of the frequency, and maybe using more than one frequency if you plan on doing it for that long.
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Nik Gnashers
Saturday, 23. July 2016, 06:14
Hi Karl,
Good luck with your beacon, I'm sure some of our members will have a listen for it, and report back here if they hear you.
It sounds like your QTH is not in a good area for radio, but have you considered using a portable station, or mobile one instead ?
:) Nik
I'm usually a mobile station, biking down to the sea or climbing rocky knolls. This is really just an experiment to see if it's possible to use my apartment as QTH.
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stormy
Saturday, 23. July 2016, 07:29
Hi Karl
I will be listening out for you in SW France and I'm glad that somebody is having a go at
PSK31 as this is good when SSB propagation is bad. I am set up for it so do you want any reply
between your transmissions, or would you rather just get a report through this forum?
Ian
Thanks! I'm actually TX:ing an emailaddress for QSL, so if you pick it up, feel free to send a mail to that address :D
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Saturday, 23. July 2016, 11:18
Lycka till Hemul,
Jag hör av mig om den studsar över till York :wave:

Maybe it will not be something I will be able to read, but if I hear it I will make a recording and see if I can decipher it...
Jag tackar och bugar!

Try Fldigi, a great piece of software.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/fldigi/

You could try it out on WebSDR, usually a lot of PSK31 on 14070.
http://www.podxs070.com/frequently-asked-questions/psk31-frequencies

If you can stand the sound then recording a laptop speaker using the laptop microphone works just fine.
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Hemul
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Gandoon
Saturday, 23. July 2016, 11:18
I would maybe recommend against continously throwing out the PSK31 on that one frequency for weeks with that short intervals. How long is the sequence you aim to transmit?
Maybe schedule it for a few shorter windows during the day so you don't annoy potential other users of the frequency, and maybe using more than one frequency if you plan on doing it for that long.
The PSK31 TX is 17 seconds every 180 seconds.

Quite honestly, I doubt very much that anyone but my neighbours will be able to hear anything unless during very short periods of time when the conditions are extremely great.

The sport is according to me to reach as far as possible with as little TX power as possible. Digital modes helps a lot and I'm really sorry that some of you (not you Gandoon) are annoyed by that, but we digital mode people enjoy the same right to use the band as you do with modulated voice, at least according to the local rules and regulations I abide by. And we tend to stick to 27235/27245.
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I will leave my system on monitoring when i'm out and will post here if I see any of your beacons.

Sorry about my fellow countryman moaning at you he has a license and now thinks he is better than everyone else, I would not mind but his ink is not even dry on the paperwork yet, it is not his fault we have a thing called care in the community which can be positive but also at times embarrassing so most just ignore his ramblings :)

will you be txing at 1500 ?



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Hemul
Saturday, 23. July 2016, 16:17
Gandoon
Saturday, 23. July 2016, 11:18

The sport is according to me to reach as far as possible with as little TX power as possible. Digital modes helps a lot and I'm really sorry that some of you (not you Gandoon) are annoyed by that, but we digital mode people enjoy the same right to use the band as you do with modulated voice, at least according to the local rules and regulations I abide by. And we tend to stick to 27235/27245.
Well in that case you don't want to be dicking around with PSK31 and want to be using WSPR instead which is something for amateur radio and pointless to do on CB because so few people if any are using WSPR or JT65.
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Sam WD40
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Not everyone's cup of tea but I hope you get a reply from it so good luck to ya

I know I'd rather hear a bit of data than olga blocking every thing out along with the other idiots playin music n animal noises
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more of a jt65 user but ill have a listen out
Edited by razor36, Saturday, 23. July 2016, 21:12.
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northern crusader are you as rude in real life? most of your posts always seem to criticize , put down people or argue that peoples statements are totally wrong.
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Plenty of digi mode on 27,550 ,,,,allso sstv on 27,700, has been for years, good luck ,,,but please keep your power qrp as not to interfear with ssb ops,,,,,tnxs
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Saturday, 23. July 2016, 21:00
Well in that case you don't want to be dicking around with PSK31 and want to be using WSPR instead which is something for amateur radio and pointless to do on CB because so few people if any are using WSPR or JT65.
Not sure what you're trying to say here, but you've pinpointed the reason as to why I'm using PSK31 rather than WSPR or JR65/9.

ROS is a rather big thing on 27245, but seems to be a non documented technology only available as a closed source Windows software, so I don't find it that interesting.
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razor36
Saturday, 23. July 2016, 21:17
northern crusader are you as rude in real life? most of your posts always seem to criticize , put down people or argue that peoples statements are totally wrong.
Glynn,nobody is as rude in real life as they are on here...the brave pills kick in when infront of their pc.

Unless they have a touch of the Victor Meldrew`s about them ;)





Back on topic.....why not have a go on mids,i use mids often but im sure Hemul (Karl) isnt hurting anyone so crack on :cheers:



Edited by Cozzmik, Sunday, 24. July 2016, 07:29.








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Saturday, 23. July 2016, 21:17
northern crusader are you as rude in real life? most of your posts always seem to criticize , put down people or argue that peoples statements are totally wrong.
I don't tolerate fools. One of my employers customers got told to his face I didn't give a pooh when he was having a go because the forklift driver unloading me had the audacity to hold him up for 30 seconds and he got all shouty about it thinking that the "You're losing me money, I'm a paying customer card" gave him the right to be a prick.

My posts are straight to the point, I've no time for waffle, padding out with irrelevant waste of time stuff or hand holding. If you're a delicate flower who doesn't like someone talking straight then maybe you should ignore my posts.

If I think peoples posts are wrong which especially when it comes to antennas most are, I'm going to say that they're wrong because it doesn't help anyone just to agree with them and let them continue doing it the wrong way. There are far too many people with CBs unable to get 3 miles down the road because of people agreeing with someone just so they don't upset them even though what they're saying is complete and utter bollocks. The whole "you have to cut your coax to 9ft multiples" is an example of bolloxthat has somehow become fact.
Edited by Northern Crusader, Sunday, 24. July 2016, 08:56.
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Thing is Conor your rudeness often over shadows your knowledge (look i cant be arsed with another argument) but its true,im not the only one to see it am i?

You seem to know your stuff (what do i know,im a dumbass) but shooting down someone is a nasty trait as i see it and yes we can ignore your posts but as they are relevant to the topic we want to see what everyone has posted..

But if someone was as rude to my face as you sometimes are id drop them....and i think its a good thing to remember because its nice to be nice :P and you never know we all might meet up for a picnic or something similar.


Thats all im going to say for now...have a nice day :thumbs: and apologies for going off topic..



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