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CB Frequency and compatability help please
Topic Started: Wednesday, 6. July 2016, 10:22 (797 Views)
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Hi all,

I'm new to the world of CB radios, walkie talkies and this forum, I'm hoping you could help me with some questions?

Would these or these work with other CB radios or together? Ie if I brought an additional, older handheld CB radio such as this would I be able to tune in to these and communicate?

Basically we're going away as a family with two little ones (both under 10) and would like to keep in touch with them when they roam (phones are out of the question as we'll be in a poor signal area).

I want something sturdy for the kids and to have one each, then I'm looking at getting myself and the other half either an additional pair of the same kind or perhaps an older 'base unit'. Could I tune the additional CB radios into any of these walkie talkies?

Thanks in advance for you help all, sorry if I appear naive, it's a steep learning curve lol.

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Yes they will work with each other,as they are all on the pmr frequencies ...................

And you have put compatible with cbs,which they not,as 1 is hf and the other is uhf.

Go on ebay you can get 4 baofeng 888s for less than 40 quid,will last longer better audio and range.The ones you looking at are over priced toys to be fair..................

You will have to programme in the frequencies via a pc,not advisable to use them out of the box.......................


And i just see its your 1st post,so welcome to the CTDX group enjoy.....................
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Would the differnce be that the PMR446s are legal to use Uk where as the Baofengs would need a Foundation Amatuer Radio License?

There are Twin Packs Motorola on Amazon for £23.50

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Motorola-Talker-Walkie-Talkie-Radio/dp/B00ANG0M0E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468224301&sr=8-1&keywords=pmr+446
Edited by Gman, Monday, 11. July 2016, 08:07.
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You dont need a Foundation to use a Baofeng I use to use one for PMR and I dont have a Foundation, because they can be programmed to be used on PMR only if require some Baofengs models are limited to be programmed for PMR only also .

@ Loki421, the radios that you are looking at are not CB radios they are standard Walkie Talkies or PMR Radios which are totally on a different frequency/wavelenth to what CB is so to answer your question those radios will NOT work in conjunction with a 27mhz CB Radio but YES with any other PMR 446 radio
Edited by Nubster, Monday, 11. July 2016, 09:16.

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Nubster
Monday, 11. July 2016, 08:53
You dont need a Foundation to use a Baofeng I use to use one for PMR and I dont have a Foundation, because they can be programmed to be used on PMR only if require some Baofengs models are limited to be programmed for PMR only also .



Is this correct ? I thought not only were they over the .5mw limit but also the antenna is modified beyond uk spec ? Not sure of the antenna terminology but i guess you get the idea. Would be interested to know if this is the case.

Smudger
Edited by Smudger, Monday, 11. July 2016, 09:21.
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Smudger
Monday, 11. July 2016, 09:21
Nubster
Monday, 11. July 2016, 08:53
You dont need a Foundation to use a Baofeng I use to use one for PMR and I dont have a Foundation, because they can be programmed to be used on PMR only if require some Baofengs models are limited to be programmed for PMR only also .



Is this correct ? I thought not only were they over the .5mw limit but also the antenna is modified beyond uk spec ? Not sure of the antenna terminology but i guess you get the idea. Would be interested to know if this is the case.

Smudger
Smudger mate I didn't say they was legal to use on PMR (but the chances of getting caught using them on PMR is very low) I said you don't need a Foundation Licence to use them , but also other models of Baofeng are made for PMR use so it also depends on what model and spec weather you class it as legal to use
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Ok m8 got what you mean no worries.

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Gman
Monday, 11. July 2016, 08:07
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Would the differnce be that the PMR446s are legal to use Uk where as the Baofengs would need a Foundation Amatuer Radio License?

There are Twin Packs Motorola on Amazon for £23.50

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Motorola-Talker-Walkie-Talkie-Radio/dp/B00ANG0M0E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468224301&sr=8-1&keywords=pmr+446


Only if your the radio police,and you would only need a Foundation Amatuer Radio License.If it was going to be used on Amatuer frequencies,pmr frequencies do not fall into that category. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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(again I am few in posts)

Again, the PMR radios can't have removable antenna and must have less than 0.5w power, Baofeng don't meet the requirments on both.

I appreciate Ofcom may not enforce the legislation.
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Gman
Monday, 11. July 2016, 10:32
(again I am few in posts)

Again, the PMR radios can't have removable antenna and must have less than 0.5w power, Baofeng don't meet the requirments on both.

I appreciate Ofcom may not enforce the legislation.
So every Baofeng model is illegal in your opinion then ,when they actually sell PMR radios models in there ranged
Ah well nice to hear from the PMR police :$ ^o)

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Which ones are legal PMR's m8 i keep looking but cant see which ones would conform. If they look like a UV5R and conform this will save me a lot of hassle. This is why i asked earlier. I thought the same as you no one will notice but this year just like when you go miles away on holiday to another country and bump into someone you know, i bumped into someone in the know who i would rather not of. The Baofeng got put away and for the rest of that day i had to use the motorola which is nothing short of next to useless. Not saying my continuing use of the baofeng would of 100% got me into trouble, but just having someone there on the day that was aware of them and what was needed to use one legally made me uneasy.

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This is where ive been looking Click for LINK and amazon, ebay
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As far as I'm aware all PMR446 radios are legal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PMR446


Baofengs are Uhf/ Vhf handhelds and are not PMRs and need a Foundation Amateur (or Marine?) License as minimum as per Ofcom.

My point is not the legislation or guidance. My point is that anybody asking for advice should be given all the information.


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OMFGG theres always 1 aint there................ :~
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Gman
Monday, 11. July 2016, 12:07
As far as I'm aware all PMR446 radios are legal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PMR446


Baofengs are Uhf/ Vhf handhelds and are not PMRs and need a Foundation Amateur (or Marine?) License as minimum as per Ofcom.

My point is not the legislation or guidance. My point is that anybody asking for advice should be given all the information.


Well your information is wrong YOU DONT NEED A FOUNDATION /MARINE LICENCE TO OWN ONE AS PER OFCOM :RTFM: I can go and buy a top of the range Amature Radio if I want I dont need a licence to buy it same as my seven year old Grandson if he had the money can go and buy a Ferrari if he wanted to you dont need a licence to buy it
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Monday, 11. July 2016, 12:01
Which ones are legal PMR's m8 i keep looking but cant see which ones would conform. If they look like a UV5R and conform this will save me a lot of hassle. This is why i asked earlier. I thought the same as you no one will notice but this year just like when you go miles away on holiday to another country and bump into someone you know, i bumped into someone in the know who i would rather not of. The Baofeng got put away and for the rest of that day i had to use the motorola which is nothing short of next to useless. Not saying my continuing use of the baofeng would of 100% got me into trouble, but just having someone there on the day that was aware of them and what was needed to use one legally made me uneasy.

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This is where ive been looking Click for LINK and amazon, ebay
Richard mate go buy ya Baofeng mate programme it for PMR only and no one will know the difference unless you get some ar5ehole PMR police who would grass ya up mate , for a start OFCOM have got better things to do than to worry over you using a Baofeng plus they aint got the staff or the facilities to do anything anyway , just use it on PMR only and dont programme any Amatuer frequencys in it all is good mate :thumb:


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You can buy these legally without any licence and programme them for UK PMR frequencies (because they come pre programmed with none legal UK PMR frequencies) and use them quite legally because I have seen them used in Sports Direct by their staff and I have seen shop security staff using them in many stores inc one where I work


link http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-x-Baofeng-BF-888S-UHF-400-470Mhz-Two-Way-FM-Radio-Charger-Earpiece-UK-/221963156327?hash=item33ae08fb67:g:lY8AAOSw41xXPVLx

Edited by Nubster, Monday, 11. July 2016, 13:29.

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Monday, 11. July 2016, 12:50
OMFGG theres always 1 aint there................ :~
He's making a legitimate point. No need for your attitude.

The information given by people here in this post is very misleading.

BAOFENG are NOT specifically PMR radios nor are they type approved for use as such.
They not NOT legal to use on PMR...FACT. What if the country he is visiting has strict laws on radio piracy or has its own legal frequencies? He does not need nor want his holiday possibly ruined for breaking the law over something we see as small and minor. It might not be like that over there.

For a store to transmit using a baofeng they would need a general or business licence and allocated frequency. To use on marine band you must have call sign allocated to your boat unless you are in a canoe or dinghy then you can use on ch16 to call mayday.

PMR should be 0.5w and type approved for use in the country where you are going to be using them. I'd check PMR UK frequencies are same as where you are going first.

Most CBs have EU multinorms and can be operated in many EU countries.

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