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siro SY27~3 vagi antenna; putting together
Topic Started: Thursday, 24. September 2015, 22:56 (2,431 Views)
quazar one
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have now have the above antenna from radiozingl in a box of bits connot understand the suppled instutions for asemmlbly mast sorted rotater sorted anyone have better instutions how to put it together sorry for the question but don,t have clue :shrug: cheers all andy
Edited by quazar one, Thursday, 24. September 2015, 22:59.
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What dont you understand ???? Lay all the bits out ,fit together job done , you dont have to cut anything and it comes with pictures what bit is the problem?
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I've got a 4 element Andy,i know what you mean about the destructions.Any way ive got me head around it now,so ask away m8.Im ere all day so will check back from time to time...............


I would have PMed ya me phone number,but it saying your pms are off m8.........................................
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http://www.sirioantenne.it/product-manual/Id-098_10-09-2011.pdf There you go :thumb:
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There is nothing quite like getting an erection with the Vagi. :$ (i have never managed to get it up myself :P )

Just make sure you get the right elements in place.. director, driven and reflector before you start cutting anything for frequency ! Be 100pct sure of which elements are which.

Lay them out and it should be quite obvious (Length wise), take your time, double check everything and don't rush it. Make sure you get the director (shortest) and reflector (longest) on the right ends of the boom.

Oh and again... don't cut anything till you are 100pct ! Measure twice to be sure before cutting. (if you need to cut for frequency)

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Unless your trying to use it on a band its not designed for , in which the element spacing will be wrong the is NO cutting, its got a gamma match for fine tuning.
Kevin
Just followed the link put up by Mark these instructions are different than the one that came with mine , which dosen,t mention any cutting as its sold as a 27_3.(simple instructions for cb'ers lol)
Edited by Bean, Friday, 25. September 2015, 07:52.
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Bean
Friday, 25. September 2015, 07:39
Unless your trying to use it on a band its not designed for , in which the element spacing will be wrong the is NO cutting, its got a gamma match for fine tuning.
Kevin
Just followed the link put up by Mark these instructions are different than the one that came with mine , which dosen,t mention any cutting as its sold as a 27_3.(simple instructions for cb'ers lol)
It has a list of frequencies and it needs to be cut for some of them as stated in the manual. Unless the manual is wrong? Sirio should should know. ;) See page 6 Tuning table.
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What i wanted to know Andy was do you have to cut it,can you not slide the elements in and make new holes without cutting.Im guessing you cant as there's no mention of it,the only frequency without cutting,looking at the destructions is 26.500..................................
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Friday, 25. September 2015, 07:59
What i wanted to know Andy was do you have to cut it,can you not slide the elements in and make new holes without cutting.Im guessing you cant as there's no mention of it,the only frequency without cutting,looking at the destructions is 26.500..................................
Each element is in 3 parts, they are screwed together. Without modifications they are fixed by screws,(where the black plastic bits go) thus the reason why cutting is required for tuning.

I suppose you could make new holes but getting those lined up precisely is a lot more hassle than cutting a couple of inches of thin ali tube. I have one but have not used it, they just don't float my boat, makes life too easy, each to their own mind you. One day I will get it out but it is not my area of interest. (I much prefer putting Silver Rods on gates and failing dismally :unsure: )
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Geoff I thought you did'nt like beams saying there a waste of time and cheating and you would never used one so how can you give advise on something you have never used or are not interested in , we can all read the Sirio instuction sheet just like you and TBH I've have never heard of anyone cutting to tune a beam you use the gamma match, its seems your favourite thing is to butcher perfectly good antennas
Edited by Nubster, Friday, 25. September 2015, 08:32.

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Very nice antenna that but what a monster do you need to warn air traffic control when you shove that in the air.
Guess you have got good neighbours my prat next door would be straight round complaining.
Not a antenna for static mobile then .
All the best with the new yagi.
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Built mine to intructions, no cutting, no sliding of tubes swr came out at 1.3 on t5 .My advice to the op if you intend to use it on 27 then build to instructions get it at the height you in tend to use it and check swr and go from there.
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Friday, 25. September 2015, 08:15
Very nice antenna that but what a monster do you need to warn air traffic control when you shove that in the air.
Guess you have got good neighbours my prat next door would be straight round complaining.
Not a antenna for static mobile then .
All the best with the new yagi.
paul
Thats what we are gonna be using it for Paul on Saturday, Static mobile :thumb: see the thread link mate
http://s3.zetaboards.com/copythat/topic/7781871/1/
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Friday, 25. September 2015, 08:19
landyman
Friday, 25. September 2015, 08:15
Very nice antenna that but what a monster do you need to warn air traffic control when you shove that in the air.
Guess you have got good neighbours my prat next door would be straight round complaining.
Not a antenna for static mobile then .
All the best with the new yagi.
paul
Thats what we are gonna be using it for Paul on Saturday, Static mobile :thumb: see the thread link mate http://s3.zetaboards.com/copythat/topic/7781871/3/#new
Nice one hope you can post some pics or even a youtube vid would be great so see you set that monster up .
That should pull the signal in just waiting for my beam to arrive but its only a baby one for use on the pmr band think i can manage that one on a 5m mast.
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Friday, 25. September 2015, 08:13
Geoff I thought you did'nt like beams saying there a waste of time and cheating and you would never used one so how can you give advise on something you have never used or are not interested in , we can all read the Sirio instuction sheet just like you and TBH I've have never heard of anyone cutting to tune a beam you use the gamma match, its seems your favourite thing is to butcher perfectly good antennas
Ok bye bye.
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hi guys my itention is to use it mainly on 11ms maybe 10ms don,t want to have cut elements for other freqs the porose of the thread to get some insight how to put it together have a better understanding of that now have never owned one before hence the question have put all the parts on the garage floor with instutions supplied by mark :thumb: will start putting it together over the weekend thankfully have very good niegbours assume it need to tune it with the gamma match on the deck prior to it being mouted on the mast thanks for all the replys guys :RTFM:
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Hello, as others have said it is fairly straight forward and especially if you intend to stay on the 11 meter band.
If you can't work it out in the next few days I'm not a million miles away near Scunthorpe and maybe could help you.
I've built the four element version of the Sirio beam here for tests a couple of years ago.
My advice is build it on the ground and then stand it on a pair of tressles ideally either with an Antenna Analiser or a decent VSWR bridge and tune it with the Gamma Match on the ground prior to mast/pole mounting.
Believe me going to a decent flatside beam is like moving from a Mini to a Fezzer for DX work.
Not that I'm dissing verticals as I use both and both have their place within the hobby.

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I got decent enough instructions with my sy27/3 and after 15mins it was put together and ready to go.... dont cut or redrill anything and it worked fine on 10m with a tuner.. :pirate2:


Here at my qth it worked just as well as my moxon :thumb:
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Friday, 25. September 2015, 09:48
I got decent enough instructions with my sy27/3 and after 15mins it was put together and ready to go.... dont cut or redrill anything and it worked fine on 10m with a tuner.. :pirate2:
Thank you Sam agreeing not to cut or drill stuff :thumb: Then I get Geoff PM ing me saying I'm negative on suggesting it

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Im going to be using mine on 11 Sam,so i think i will take a roll of insulating tape and just tape the last joint..............................
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