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lightning arrester's
Topic Started: Thursday, 10. September 2015, 08:11 (1,283 Views)
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lightning arrester are they worth the bother or are they a waste of time ? Share your thoughts.
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In my opinion,a waste of time if you get a direct strike with or without one.Your be buying a new radio,antenna, and coax + whatever else is in line ...................


No doubt there will be a bid difference of opinions,but then if we all agreed with each other all the time it wouldnt be as much fun........................
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(I am writing this post to protect myself against possible prosecution for being a moderator on this forum and not having removed or opposed perilous, life and property endangering advice.)


For the so-called "waste of time", governments, industry, science, military and private households spend hundreds of millions of British pounds each year. Indeed a lot of time is being "wasted" with installing appropriate lightning and surge protection.

Unfortunately Dave (Lagerland) is absolutely clueless about lightning protection, he has not the faintest idea how lightning arresters work and how well devices can be protected with them, and he refuses to close this gap in his knowledge. Since not only your, but also the property and lives of others are in danger, I therefore urge you to thoroughly read and learn about lightning protection yourself.


A good starting point would be the Wikipedia articles on lightning and on lightning arresters,

Wiki: Lightning

Wiki: Lightning Arrester

We have already had a similar topic in the past:

Click for LINK

In addition, you can find hundreds of very good videos on Youtube and other portals which explain and demonstrate the mode of operation and the effectiveness of lightning arresters.


In any case, lightning and surge protection is not a matter of opinion, but of laws and regulations made by your respective government (in your case by the British government). You can find some of the important and appropriate documents in our documents section:

Legal Documents


Although lightning voltages and currents are enormous and absolutely deadly, with a professional lightning protection system your equipment behind (!) this system can be protected completely. This means that under the premise that you have installed everything correctly, there will be no damage whatsoever to your transmission line, SWR/Power meter, radios, TV sets, computers and whatever else you have installed behind the lightning arrester and surge protection system.

You may wish to ignore this, follow Dave's advice and carelessly risk your own life and property. However, law requires you not to endanger the life and property of others.

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And you're still a :censor: rude :censor: ,and it was so nice while you was qrt.It made the forum was almost bearable....................
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I see George is back on the forum , complete with his normal rude sarcastic remarks to people which coming from a moderator or should I say part time moderator he should know better, so should the other members of the forum staff and take note of this

Life is too short, so ave a laugh now n then never know you might like it
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AND THE LINK YOU PUT UP........................

LIGHTNING AND FIRE PROTECTION:
United States National Electrical Code (NEC, also called NFPA 70, NFPA = National Fire Protection Association)
NFPA 70 NEC 2008

Is ref to the us,but i guess thats just you being you..........................
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PMSL, and I thought he was a expert ^o)







Just thought we better not upset him or we will get told off cos its OK for him to insult but if anyone does it back because his a Moderator we cant :$
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Charlie, this is a good question, but also a touchy subject for some people on this forum. For example, the link George made to a previous post has nearly four pages of argument.

More links can be found on lightening and its protection when it comes to radio here. There is a lot of good information out there on this topic, and plenty of links available to you right here in this thread, please take the time to do some actual research on the subject.

Another thing to research is how lightening rods actually work, they function very differently than most people actually believe, for example, they don't actually attract lightening, they repel it...


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Lagerland
Thursday, 10. September 2015, 13:40
AND THE LINK YOU PUT UP........................

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Is ref to the us,but i guess thats just you being you..........................
The links I place are for those who can read.

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@Nubster: I have been here all along. As long as the other staff have no problems with it, you and Lagerland can go on with posting nonsense and mobbing other people all day long.

But when you start to give advice which

1. seriously endangers the health, property and even the life of other members and readers, and which

2. seriously endangers other staff and me with getting a multi-million-pound prosecution,

then I will not watch passively, even if you guys find that "not nice".

P.S. If you feel that any important links are missing in the Documents section, you are happily invited to do something useful for a change, and participate.
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who made this PRAT a mod !!!! :doh:





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I always wondered that Paul

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porky.69
Thursday, 10. September 2015, 14:33
who made this PRAT a mod !!!! :doh:
It makes you think paul,theres hope 4 us all m8.................

Just getting me janet and john books out...................................
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13CT025
Thursday, 10. September 2015, 14:23
Lagerland
Thursday, 10. September 2015, 13:40
AND THE LINK YOU PUT UP........................

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Is ref to the us,but i guess thats just you being you..........................
The links I place are for those who can read.

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@Nubster: I have been here all along. As long as the other staff have no problems with it, you and Lagerland can go on with posting nonsense and mobbing other people all day long.

But when you start to give advice which

1. seriously endangers the health, property and even the life of other members and readers, and which

2. seriously endangers other staff and me with getting a multi-million-pound prosecution,

then I will not watch passively, even if you guys find that "not nice".

P.S. If you feel that any important links are missing in the Documents section, you are happily invited to do something useful for a change, and participate.



Its obvious your the one who cant read,where did i give anyone any advice that seriously endangers there health or property .It says in my opinion how is that advice. Its not is it its an OPION............................


Try ebay for some janet and john books,if you understand them that is...................... :doh:


They can take away our freedom but not our OPINIONS..............................

What a toenail................................
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This one is book three so it might be a bit advanced ;)

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Or this if its too much
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I would ask to borrow it m8,but its a bit advanced for me.......................... :rofl:
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I knew they would be too advance for ya mate cos they are for me :D

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Reading through this thread, before I started typing this post there are 16 existing posts. The first is a question. Three of the rest actually tried to help the original poster. All of the rest of the posts, that is three out of four posts overall, are nonsense, bickering, and name calling.

How does this help the forum?

How does this help the person asking a question?

How does this help others who may also have the same, or a similar questions?

How does this make all of us look?

Seriously, is this really how we, both the users and the mods/admins, want these forums to be represented?

Not long after I first joined this forum I was told by a member of this forum, that was also on other forums I frequented, that is more of a "Gentleman's" forum, and for the most part this forum lives up to that. What happened to that?


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Having seen what a lighting arrestor actually does, and how it protects the equipment on the end of it NOT..........

I usually throw my Co-Ax out the window if I think my AE might get a hit.



13CT013 Tim aus Germany

So Mote it be
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So you think George a Moderator of this forum acted as a Gentleman as you say by calling someone clueless and making them sound if they was a idiot, well if thats how you think how a Gentleman should act then you must as ignorant and rude as George and have no idea how a true Gentleman should be


So is George or You going to tell Tim he is cluless for thowing his coax out of the window
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Where im from steve,if your attacked verbally or otherwise you do something.You dont sit back and take it mod or not,trust me i would rather sort it out marques of queensberry style.But that aint possible.......................
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