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| Tweet Topic Started: Sunday, 6. September 2015, 19:12 (734 Views) | |
| ark angel | Sunday, 6. September 2015, 19:12 Post #1 |
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Hi all About to set up a base station and was after your opinion is a gain master worth the differance in price to an ordinary silver rod sorry if this is controversial subject but I gotta start some where ark angel (andy)
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| RadioDaze | Sunday, 6. September 2015, 19:36 Post #2 |
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What are your mounting options ? How (chimney, side wall, pole in garden etc.) and what height can you get it ? That will help us consider. (If this is a permanent base station arguably the slightly more expensive Sirio GPS 1/2 is more robust for a few pounds more if you end up going with the silver rod after further info is supplied.) http://www.sirioantenne.it/gpe-58gps-12/ The Sigma Venom 1/2 wave is great for portable, extremely lightweight, they work very well but some think they bend easy in high wind. |
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| RadioDaze | Sunday, 6. September 2015, 19:44 Post #3 |
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Also how comfortable with the £120 investment for a GM are you... easy to spend that or is a bit of a stretch? |
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| ark angel | Sunday, 6. September 2015, 19:45 Post #4 |
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Mounting will be rear of house above gutter line live on housing estate in a semi could go on gable end but trying to keep a low profile.A few years ago there were lots of antennas now mine will be the only one I'm coming back to radio after a gap of 20 odd years many thanks for your reply any advice much needed |
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| RadioDaze | Sunday, 6. September 2015, 19:51 Post #5 |
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As a start back I suggest to get a 1/2 wave Sirio GPS, that is what I did (I am portable so got the Venom) first and they work. If you get into it seriously then you could consider a GM down the line. Things like PLT (clicking noises from devices sending signals down the mains) can be a problem so blowing £120 of the bat when you do not know your local interference level yet is a bit of a risk. A half wave vertical can to a good job of local and DX for a really good price. |
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| ark angel | Sunday, 6. September 2015, 19:52 Post #6 |
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Luckily for me the price of the gain master is ok was looking at the 827 till I realised the size of the radials.didnt want to buy the gain master it brakes at the first wind or I can't tx or rx any better than somthing costing a third of the price |
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| RadioDaze | Sunday, 6. September 2015, 20:02 Post #7 |
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It is difficult to confirm which antenna would work best specifically. I think the Sirio 1/2 GPS would cover all bases and do a good job. As mentioned you can get a Gain Master if you really get back into it. |
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| ark angel | Sunday, 6. September 2015, 20:15 Post #8 |
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Sorry for more questions but would the expensive antenna cause less tvi.. Etc than the cheaper one I will use 213 cable and good quality plugs will be using export 3900 mainly at night don't think I'll use an amp but who knows where this hobby will lead |
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| SydtheCat | Sunday, 6. September 2015, 20:31 Post #9 |
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Hi Andy TVI is not much of an issue these days ( digital tv ) especially using legal power. for me i would go the for the SGM, fantastic band width ( 12/11 and 10m bands ) and very low noise levels on RX for a vertical Also consider the Antron 99 Craig Edited by SydtheCat, Sunday, 6. September 2015, 20:37.
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| ark angel | Sunday, 6. September 2015, 21:09 Post #10 |
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Thanks for the replies as you can tell I have much to consider suspose it's got to be better than the fire stick in the loft when I first started lol
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| Nik Gnashers | Sunday, 6. September 2015, 21:18 Post #11 |
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If you want one of the best (performance-wise), with an easy to set-up construction, enable to withstand fierce winds, a very wide frequency range, then get a Sirio Gainmaster. If you decide you are not actually that bothered about getting back into the hobby after a few weeks, then you will be able to sell it no problem at all. Putting a base antenna up can be a time consuming pain in the ass job, so if you are not a complete novice on-air, and know what you should be expecting, then I'd say why waste time putting up anything less ? Of course, if you are on a budget, then a silver rod is not that far behind in performance, but it is behind and you will see a definite improvement with the gainmaster. If you do a search, or look back at the older threads in the antenna section, you will see literally 100's of posts about base antenna choices & comparisons .... |
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| ark angel | Sunday, 6. September 2015, 22:27 Post #12 |
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Thanks for the advice nik think I'm sold on the gain master do it once do it right
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| razor36 | Sunday, 6. September 2015, 22:33 Post #13 |
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what happened to my dial a match post? |
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| ark angel | Sunday, 6. September 2015, 23:07 Post #14 |
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Hi Glynn Not sure what happened to your post read it but then can't find it that's how I started when I was a teenager apologys if I did somthing wrong nice to talk to you all hope to talk again on the air all the best |
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| razor36 | Sunday, 6. September 2015, 23:47 Post #15 |
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no worries bud I was just joking, was wondering why a mod has removed it, humour must not be allowed any more |
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| RadioDaze | Monday, 7. September 2015, 09:27 Post #16 |
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Let us know how you get on. I see you said you started out again mobile, put your mag mount twig inside your house on a big lump of metal radiator or whatever and see what noise you pick up first that will give you an indication of what you might expect when you put a big antenna up. Or on your car directly outside your home. I always check new QTH with a mag mount first to get a grip of local PLT/interference etc. S6 or 7 of that will put you off the hobby faster than you can drop a hat. Good luck whatever you choose. |
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| Northern Crusader | Monday, 7. September 2015, 10:35 Post #17 |
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Not to the point its worth spending money to do if you've got an antenna 1/2 wave or more already. Keep the silver rod for local contacts and put up a dipole for DX which you can make yourself out of scrap wire. Get it at least 16ft high. For £120 you could build a Moxon beam and put it on a cheap TV antenna rotator. The Moxon would make any of those verticals look like a joke. Edited by Northern Crusader, Monday, 7. September 2015, 10:36.
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| Northern Crusader | Monday, 7. September 2015, 10:39 Post #18 |
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No it won't because the magmount on the radiator will have a ton of common mode RFI which isn't going to be present or at least not as bad on the installed vertical. The less the common mode RFI, the less noise is also being induced by the coax into the radio. It is also inside the house so subject to levels of interference from the wiring and devices in close proximity that the outdoor antenna wouldn't be. |
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| RadioDaze | Monday, 7. September 2015, 10:54 Post #19 |
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I think it will give you a rough idea which is better than no idea, right ? I have tried mag mount on many a QTH and it hears PLT crackling very nicely (and that correlates well to when a vertical is up in my experience.. i.e. low noise on mag = low noise on big vertical) Many suffer various noise floor issues from background RF soup, your local RF noise floor if you will. Better to have some idea of that before spending big $$$ on antennas when you have an S8 of PLT I think. The OP can choose what to do now lots of replies to consider. As I said try it on the roof of the car outside then if he has a mag which we can assume given he has started up mobile it would be silly not to check. |
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