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New Cb Standard Comes 24.06.2011
Topic Started: Wednesday, 29. June 2011, 14:39 (4,657 Views)
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So have been speaking to someone this afternoon and here is the scoop that many inside the EU has been waiting for. From the 24/06/2011 there will be a new CEPT Authorization that from 01/10/2011 and country dependent the following changes are made into legal statute of the CB Radio Service.

AM that has been 1w in Germany and other countries where AM is allowed is now made 4 watts

SSB that has been 4w in Germany, Liechtenstein, Switzerland and in Spain 12 watts is NOW LEGAL 12w and NOT 4w PEP

It is with the greatest sadness I understand that both the UK and the Netherlands abstained and will not make these changes into law
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That sucks for the UK...

All legal except us and holland! Why be in the european union and have double standards?


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Opens the door for new Cept radios to be legally owned though (and easily "opened")

Shame it's not retrospective to allow all the classic rigs to be legal
Edited by T140Pete, Wednesday, 29. June 2011, 15:24.
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Wednesday, 29. June 2011, 14:39
So have been speaking to someone this afternoon and here is the scoop that many inside the EU has been waiting for. From the 24/06/2011 there will be a new CEPT Authorization that from 01/10/2011 and country dependent the following changes are made into legal statute of the CB Radio Service.

AM that has been 1w in Germany and other countries where AM is allowed is now made 4 watts

SSB that has been 4w in Germany, Liechtenstein, Switzerland and in Spain 12 watts is NOW LEGAL 12w and NOT 4w PEP

It is with the greatest sadness I understand that both the UK and the Netherlands abstained and will not make these changes into law
That is just typical here in the uk a flat no to ssb and they will not change their minds so it's 40uk/40cept 4w for now.
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very sad indeed for us in the uk, but its what weve come to expect from our so called goverment
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And the "Powers That Be" honestly haven't considered the fact that (literally) Truck-loads of easily modified fully-EU-Legal SSB radios are going to flow constantly into this country?

Like the Jackson 2, I can see a whole load of "Legit SSB" Sets being offered for sale here legally, simply by adding the note "This radio may only be used in Great Britain when on the 'UK' setting " . . . . . Yup.

Still, it is really nice to see that successive goverments, regardless of political party, have managed to agree on one thing for the last 35 years, They've argued about EVERYTHING else, but no mattter what is going on elsewhere in the Europe and the World, they still regularly screw all CB radio users in the UK.
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wonder if this would hold up with ofcom....

"The effect of section 2 is that European law must be considered to be a valid and binding source of UK law. Where European law exists on a particular subject (at least if set out in the Treaties or in Regulations), it can override any inconsistent UK law - including Acts of Parliament"
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Hardly a suprise really.

The UK government accepts EU laws that screw the population over, but when one comes up that offers us a benefit then we are not allowed it.


Time to get out of the EU altogether IMO.
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Heard so many variations on this recently that i cant make up my mind whats true and what isnt . So i think i will wait till we get the official word.
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Did a lot of searching and finaly found this document of the final draft

http://www.erodocdb.dk/Docs/doc98/official/pdf/ECCDEC1103.PDF
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There is talk of it now been legal in the British isles, is it true? I can't find any info on the ofcom website to suggest that the UK is left out?

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There is no information on the ofcom website anything that was there has been removed in the last couple of days here is all the info that i have found so far and no where does it say that the UK has opted out

http://www.drm.org/uploads/files/FM(10)092%20Rev1_Minutes%20of%20the%2069th%20WGFM%20Meeting%20St%20Petersburg%202010.pdf

http://www.cept.org/files/4243/FM(11)131_Minutes%20of%2072WGFM%20Miesbach%202011.doc

http://www.erodocdb.dk/Docs/doc98/official/pdf/ECCDEC1103.PDF


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I think we all know what the outcome will be......... :headbang:


but we can live in hope i suppose,if not stuff em ive been freebanding since 1979 and they have`nt and wont stop me using those freqs anyway.

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A couple of interesting sites I have read recently I like G4ILO's blog,
The wikipedia is interesting as to the UK CB history and the Governments avoidence of giving us what we want a level playing field :wack: . 73 Andy :cheers:
http://blog.g4ilo.com/2011/02/another-notcom-opt-out.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CB_radio_in_the_United_Kingdom
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the excuse use to be it would interfere with emergency service radios wonder what they came up with this time being in the EU only when it suits the government should be stopped we either are or are not
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eehhmm.....not very surprised at this T.B.H,but is it not breaching E.U laws affecting our Human Right's hahaha,enough said me thinks
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I have always found it hard to grasp the concept that 4W of AM/SSB on 27.500 MHz poses such a huge risk of causing interference problems & as such has been branded illegal. Yet a holder of a ham licence can legally run 400W on 28.000 MHz where these alleged 'interference to neighbours hifi gear & emergency communications' problems mysteriously disappear.

There must be strange goings on in that small 500KHz space, perhaps thats why theres so much fun to be had.
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It was announced on the RSGB news yesterday (Sun 24/7/2011) and there was no mention of the UK being left out, so maybe we will get it. They said we'd never get mid band but we did.
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Thursday, 14. July 2011, 20:52
I have always found it hard to grasp the concept that 4W of AM/SSB on 27.500 MHz poses such a huge risk of causing interference problems & as such has been branded illegal. Yet a holder of a ham licence can legally run 400W on 28.000 MHz where these alleged 'interference to neighbours hifi gear & emergency communications' problems mysteriously disappear.

There must be strange goings on in that small 500KHz space, perhaps thats why theres so much fun to be had.
it would still be illegal to use 27500 any mode even if this standard was accepted in the UK but I know what you mean and I agree totally.the thing is I am not too bothered about the SSB thing on the mid block it would be nice to be able to SSB legally on a CB and I hope it happens but the main thing for me would being able to use AM for CB lovely! and 4w is very generous I would be happy with 1w AM! all my CB mates where I live would use AM all the time its miles better than FM for local chat.
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same as normal then we only exist in europe when it suits the powers that be like when restrictions are brought in,its never the uk government according to them but the european union hmmm what a suprise :dog:
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