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Who were the first pirate broadcsters?
Topic Started: Friday, 4. March 2011, 16:19 (1,609 Views)
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Looking around I have just found a write up about a Norweigan station that beats Radio Caroline by a good few years.

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1922/1923: Drammen Radio, Drammen. 870/770 kHz. The station was run by a 15-year-old boy who had built his own TX (with eight Philips DII valves and a power of 20W). He probably had quite a few listeners, as there was nothing else to listen to at the time! (The operator also built and sold receivers, so many of his listeners were listening to him on sets they’d bough from him!) The station is said to have had well-produced programmes, complete with commercials, live music (!) and the national anthem at the end of each broadcast.


A source at the same location writes about Dutch broadcasters.

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The first pirate broadcaster was probably OTG4, which was broadcasting from Gouda for almost a year in 1931 on a wavelength of 230m. (The station may actually have begun broadcasting at the end of 1930.)


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Pirate broadcasting seems to have exploded in 1932. Broadcast stations kept popping up everywhere, especially in Twente and Zuid-Holland. The broadcast activity seems to have been quite high during the entire decade, but it seems to have peaked in 1938, when pirates were being heard in Twente and/or Achterhoek almost every weekend.


UK wise the only one I know of is Ceto. A yacht that in about 1930 was funded by the Daily Mail (I think it was) to broadcast from international waters as she toured the UK. Only test transmissions were ever made as it was not a very good set up. But they did try.
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Just found this
The first radio broadcasts from ships
1898 - 1950
1951 - today
http://www.offshore-radio.de/fleet/chrono1.htm
1898-89 First Marconi tests in the Thames estuary.

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that true caroline wasn't the first pirate radio station.
but she does has some records; as the highest antenna ever on a ship, longest at sea without coming ashore etc.

radio waddenzee is the only radio station in europe at today, founded by sietse an old neightbour of my. it has radio seagull in the evening.

all good fun ;)
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Friday, 4. March 2011, 16:44

but she does has some records; as the highest antenna ever on a ship,
I'm not sure about that don't forget Laser 730 khz's ballon lifted kite. OK it ended up attached to a traffic bollard in Essex after only a few test TX's, but they did broadcast using it a few times.
image at http://www.bobleroi.co.uk/ScrapBook/Lazer_2/Lazer_2.html

Also don't forget Cody's Kite efforts. I am currently reading Cody's life story & he is recorded as having lifted men as high as 2,000 feet on a regular basis & his kites did also get used to lift antennas..I think.
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Friday, 4. March 2011, 16:44
radio waddenzee is the only radio station in europe at today.
I assume you mean offshore station...Actually there is a rumour that a new VHF FM station is off the South Coast of Spain.
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If you were to visit Sotogrande on the
southernmost part of Spain's Costa del Sol and tune into the FM waveband
you'd find

Delta Radio International is based
on the Motor Vessel Aquarius, an 80 foot long ex-trawler

200 watt FM unit

Delta Radio is, in part, a reaction to the Spanish
government's crackdown on unlicensed radio.

unlike much of the
rest of Europe, Spain has never brought in anti-offshore pirate radio
legislation.


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Delta Radio International started broadcasting on November 1st

most of the funding needed to
keep the station afloat is earned by broadcasting paid-for religious
programmes from the Garner Ted Armstrong Evangelistic Association twice
per day

http://ezinearticles.com/?Offshore-Pirate-Radio-Is-Dead---Or-Is-It?&id=5547480

Edited to add. Radio Seagull has a website in English, so it's easier to read if like me your Dutch is non existent or only based upon well known jingles.
http://www.radioseagull.com/ship.htm
They even go to sea at times!!!! Unlike Radioi Caroline which is now totally landbased.
Edited by Listener, Friday, 4. March 2011, 17:40.
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theres a couple of pirates on here i bet ! cough! cough !
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Friday, 4. March 2011, 17:22
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Friday, 4. March 2011, 16:44

but she does has some records; as the highest antenna ever on a ship,
I'm not sure about that don't forget Laser 730 khz's ballon lifted kite. OK it ended up attached to a traffic bollard in Essex after only a few test TX's, but they did broadcast using it a few times.
image at http://www.bobleroi.co.uk/ScrapBook/Lazer_2/Lazer_2.html

Also don't forget Cody's Kite efforts. I am currently reading Cody's life story & he is recorded as having lifted men as high as 2,000 feet on a regular basis & his kites did also get used to lift antennas..I think.
sure, but that was not a radio antenna mast of 300ft ;)
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Friday, 4. March 2011, 17:32
They even go to sea at times!!!! Unlike Radio Caroline which is now totally landbased.
indeed at first they used a buoy called 'herman' but nowadays they use a proper anchor
when at sea.

with the right conditions you can hear them on 1602khz am

also they are based in my birth place B)

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Friday, 4. March 2011, 18:41
theres a couple of pirates on here i bet ! cough! cough !
say no more ;)
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Radio Caroline...........remember The Ross Revenge ,They were busted by the DTI and the Dutch authoritys in 1989 (I think).......the way they boarded and treated the crew were a disgrace, even a female was manhandled the story goes.......just because somebody transmitted Pop music in International waters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKJLwwQ8S0Y&feature=related
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The RCA Victor 50KW AM transmitter.....God some American CBers run more , but this is "Oldskool" class, proper gear http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE0n8qSdkyU
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Last video.........pure Pirates and NOT Caroline, I listened the broadcasts in 1989 and remember this happening http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0B53AWq_6s
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Friday, 4. March 2011, 19:13
Radio Caroline...........remember The Ross Revenge ,They were busted by the DTI and the Dutch authoritys in 1989 (I think).......the way they boarded and treated the crew were a disgrace, even a female was manhandled the story goes.......just because somebody transmitted Pop music in International waters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKJLwwQ8S0Y&feature=related
yep, that was a dark day in my country...

this whole raid was / is a legal mine field. by the end of the day the only thing they could do was arresting the UK & NL passport holders people... hence that all gear had to be given back after many years of battle in court. if the crew were non UK & NL nationals this was never happened. bear in mind that is were both UK & NL who did this raid...

on the other hand that whole radio caroline was be coming an emotional grave yard with a ship what was more a floating wreck with more non working gear then working. also that ship was to big to maintain with the money generated IMHO.

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Friday, 4. March 2011, 20:20
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Friday, 4. March 2011, 19:13
Radio Caroline...........remember The Ross Revenge ,They were busted by the DTI and the Dutch authoritys in 1989 (I think).......the way they boarded and treated the crew were a disgrace, even a female was manhandled the story goes.......just because somebody transmitted Pop music in International waters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKJLwwQ8S0Y&feature=related
yep, that was a dark day in my country...

this whole raid was / is a legal mine field. by the end of the day the only thing they could do was arresting the UK & NL passport holders people... hence that all gear had to be given back after many years of battle in court. if the crew were non UK & NL nationals this was never happened. bear in mind that is were both UK & NL who did this raid...

on the other hand that whole radio caroline was be coming an emotional grave yard with a ship what was more a floating wreck with more non working gear then working. also that ship was to big to maintain with the money generated IMHO.

I have very strong feelings about this whole story........I remember it was the year I met my wife (both only 21) and she was a cleaner of a doctors surgery at night and I regularly listened the sound of Caroline on AM whilst I was waiting for her.
The DTI were a group of Bullie Boys pure and simple.....OK it was the Dutch who raided the ship.
As for court battles well how can you get an RCA Victor AM transmitter back that has been trashed by a sledgehammer. In my eyes anyone capable of ruining gear of this quality should be punished, this is a crime in its self simple as. The thing is they said The Ross Revenge was a pirate.............infact it was them conducting themselves as Pirates on the high seas ,taking a vessle by force.
Am I correct that the Ross Revenge was left to rot and now a group of brave souls are restoring her to her former glory??. As most know this was the last ship used they did have previous vessels.
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Friday, 4. March 2011, 22:43
Am I correct that the Ross Revenge was left to rot and now a group of brave souls are restoring her to her former glory??. As most know this was the last ship used they did have previous vessels.
true, i was on the mi-amigo the mv before the ross :)

i can tell you that i had tears in my eyes when i found out that she was really sunk this time
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We had an evening at the local radio club dedicated to pirate radio. there were a few people who might have possibly been on the boats and helped out technically. The photos were onboard the boat etc so they had to be there ;) :D
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Hi all,
I to was listening to the Broadcast that day,
I also was on the protest march in London to the then DTI where we met all the djs who were on the ship,
I even like many others gave them lots of albums to rebuild the library as they even took the records in the raid,
I have also through the support group given money to help put the ship back in order and this work is on going with lots of volunteers the Ross is in Harwich and they do use the studios on the ship at times for the salalite transmissions on sky platform which is also helped by donations and adds.
The 50Kw tx was smashed all but I think 1 valve but a dedicated volunteer Amateur has completely rebuilt it and although it is not used it could be.
tThey are now trying to get a MW freq www.RadioCarolineOnAir.com

And this is thier home web page http://www.radiocaroline.co.uk/#home.html

Enjoy Falcon :pirate:
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Friday, 4. March 2011, 19:13
Radio Caroline...........remember The Ross Revenge ,They were busted by the DTI and the Dutch authoritys in 1989 (I think).......the way they boarded and treated the crew were a disgrace, even a female was manhandled the story goes.......just because somebody transmitted Pop music in International waters
Following one raid by the DTI on Radio Jackie. One officer (by the name of Eric Gotts) was convicted of assaulting a 14 year old boy....Very brave.
I have to say I have been present when Eric & friends arrived at a broadcasting location & he was always very pleasant. By comparison one DTI officer in the midlands whose name I cannot remember. He was an absolute thug, & even turned up on one raid (on UK radio?) with a school kid!!!!!!! He was well known for doing raids on his own with no other DTI officer or police present. This was NOT Preston as I remember him.
I must admit I don't miss amateur radio at all, but I do miss broadcasting. So much so that I can still hear the call of the soldering iron.
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OK, it was Pure Entertainment, but I do think that "The Boat That Rocked" did manage to capture and show an excellent portrayal of the paranoia that The Establishment had about Radio Caroline.

The scenes in the Whitehall Government Department, with the Brylcremed Civil Servant types, really did show an out-of-date and out-of-touch Officialdom that were terrified of this "Instigator of Revolution" that was "poisoning the minds of the Young People" and determined to stop it by any means necessary to retain their status-quo. (No, not the Rock Band, even they're not THAT old).
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Saturday, 5. March 2011, 00:03
We had an evening at the local radio club dedicated to pirate radio. there were a few people who might have possibly been on the boats and helped out technically. The photos were onboard the boat etc so they had to be there ;) :D
Back in the 70's there were a group of amateur licenced offshore engineers (3 I think) who used Essex & Kent VHF repeaters under callsigns along the line of 1, 2 & 3. (that's NS for North Sea.) to keep in touch with the office & friends. Radio London's best known engineer, the one who built the best TX of the 60's, was a G3 who came from the same village as Andy Archer. In fact Ian also worked for Radio City & Such as well.
And as I am sure Falcon knows it was not only amateurs but those legally employed in broadcasting engineering too. As one well known TX builder of the 70's & 80's. Who sold both via his own pseudonym & via Radio Apollo was a TX engineer by trade.
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