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| Richy | Saturday, 18. December 2010, 23:36 Post #41 |
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had a word with the missus after tea tonight (beans on toast lol!) should be ordering it on monday if all is well! i would have to say i think it would be quieter on rx with noise than the a99 is/was as i proved to my self that the noise was caused from the capacitor section on the a99!!? this conclusion was from many up and downs the ladder rebuilding with different wire! lineing the fibreglass tubes! just to see what it was causeing the white noise none of those ideas made a of difference! in the end i threw caution to the wind and dismantled the bottom section and rebuilt it almost as the silver rod coil! and bingo no noise!! if the tp5 has the same coil as a silver rod as i think it does! as it looks just like a silver rod just with wire and fibreglass ! it should be good 73s.
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| Deleted User | Sunday, 19. December 2010, 09:44 Post #42 |
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Think the snows here maybe will hamper the delivery, so all have to do is sit and wait gluwein anyone?
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| Deleted User | Sunday, 19. December 2010, 11:16 Post #43 |
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I put almost the very same in my first post, but deleted it My issue is that if they are prepared to lie about that, what else are they lying about, should we believe any of their claims, mind you, honesty has never been at the heart of antenna sales I also wonder about bandwidth reduction due to using wire instead of tubular construction for the radiating element, if I get round to it I might run this in EZNEC and see what the difference is. Good luck with the tests guys.
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| Deleted User | Sunday, 19. December 2010, 11:34 Post #44 |
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Prepared to "lie about that" Sadly thats a little too strong as companies cannot lie to sell something. Over estimate etc sure can be said and remember it is the "maker" that states the claims and not the joe bloggs limited that are selling the antenna. They are simple sellers that act on what they are told or sent. |
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| Deleted User | Sunday, 19. December 2010, 12:05 Post #45 |
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I don't want to argue over minutia, if it isn't the real gain figure then it's a lie, it's either true or not, companies can lie just like anyone else can lie, that's why we have government organisations like trading standards, it would take someone to complain to trading standards, about the gain figure, before they would be taken to task over it, as much as I believe it to be a lie, I'm not about to get that anal about it. As for it not being the retailers fault, well it's their add and it's they who I would be buying from, if I were to complain to trading standards, the retailer would be taken to task, why would we not want to the retailer to be honest with us? You know the gain figure isn't real, Thunderpole will no doubt know the gain figure isn't real, yet they still pass it off as real, so much so they quote it in their add, it's not right. |
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| Beany | Sunday, 19. December 2010, 12:19 Post #46 |
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| Richy | Sunday, 19. December 2010, 12:40 Post #47 |
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thats all very true northern35s! this is why i have always liked the sirio company there figures are a bit more realistic! but lets not forget that inflated gain figures have been around since the 70s ect ! i think they can get away with it because most of the antenna companys except sirio i believe? normaly have there antennas tested for them from an independent source just like the a99 was ! i suppose if there told a gain figure by an independent company then it must be right then ? so as far as there concerned its not a lie? also the a99 is dbi which is completley different and in my oppinion useless as antennas are never put up in a perfect enviroment anyway! it just looks good on the side of the antenna box!! if it had said 1.2db! you would probably have walked past it? 73s. |
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| Deleted User | Monday, 20. December 2010, 14:38 Post #48 |
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Figures Figures Figures Many of the people who moan about the inflated figures will anyway not buy it but critisize it. My point being how many people bought an antenna and said "i will buy this because of the amazing dbi" Hear them on the air Word of Mouth How it lasts, how it works If it was only via web and keyboard then hardly anything would ever be sold as all people wait for an other mug to buy it.. From what have seen, they sold a few (more than) and now wait mine and the tracking number. Praying its here for xmas as will have it in the air quicker than a gluwein from a winter market. Thanks to TP for investing time, money into the area of antennas. British Made and I for one do not care for the figures, the bla bla. GET THEM IN THE AIR, KEY THE MIKE and less of the keyboard.... That does not make voices on the air Good for Them to Do it....... Just wish the TP3 would return, worked all over on mine till the legs went bad
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| Richy | Monday, 20. December 2010, 17:09 Post #49 |
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hey simon i can remember those tp3s? had loads of guys around here that used them in the good old days! and i have to say they did work quite well! i have to ask but why do you need a tp3 for? i thourght you had a sirio m400? 73s. |
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| Deleted User | Monday, 20. December 2010, 18:34 Post #50 |
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Sirio Starduster yes have some of those in the cellar here and never managed get them in the air Just worked well the TP3 got all over the place with one. Also used an AS Javelin with the loaded legs and centre loaded top element and that worked like hell also... Getting old I suppose and remembering the days
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| Captain Kirk | Monday, 20. December 2010, 20:56 Post #51 |
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Always thought the tp3 was the best antenna I ever bought sold it to a mate of mine wish I hadnt but there again Ive got a brand new one in the box here! i will put it up early next year see if it is still as good.they fill up with water you have got to seal them up also drill the legs and fit nuts bolts and shakeproof washers that should stop the legs falling off they work well with just one leg anyway!mate of mine hes silent key now swore by his tp2 he had 1000s of contacts all over europe on it using a harvard base station modded to cover low mid high as well as UK40 all on FM pama echo mike and 25w booster which he didnt use much, he wouldnt touch the tp3! the tp2 is great UK cb antenna as well.a good design for the time. |
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| Deleted User | Tuesday, 21. December 2010, 00:17 Post #52 |
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How very true.......I have a TP5 coming soon to try also. As for the TP3 I have a very little used one stashed in my shed. I keep meaning to give it an airing. I spoke with Thunderpole back in the summer. I think a younger guy on the phones and he told me the TP3 was coming back out. I guess he meant the new TP5 model. I guess with current laws (unlike back then) you can have a long element, so I guess the old long Leg TPs are a thing of the past. |
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| Deleted User | Tuesday, 21. December 2010, 03:01 Post #53 |
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Yep maybe now RIP but was indeed a real good one back in the day for sure. Loved my TP1, TP2 and TP3 it was another of those that always got me where I wanted to speak |
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| Richy | Tuesday, 21. December 2010, 19:22 Post #54 |
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i wish that guy at tp was right and that the tp3 was coming back! would love to try one! for me it was a toss up between the tp3 and the astroplane(original avanti!) and because the astroplane was an excellent price from a friend i had the ap! i think it was 3rd hand when i got it but it looked and worked like new and worked like hell ! i oftern wondered if the tp3 could beat it and if i had made the right choice. i could of had a tp3 no problems as the local tandy at the time had over 30 in stock at any one time! apparantley he couldnt get them in quick enough they sold like hot cakes. but i have to say my ap lasted the longest out of all my friends who had the tp3s ect by a long way! so in the end i thourght i made the right choice after all! 73s. |
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| Offplanet | Tuesday, 21. December 2010, 19:28 Post #55 |
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Anyone got a picture of the Thunderpole 3 and 4? - I remember the TP1 and TP2, but that's it. |
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| Richy | Tuesday, 21. December 2010, 19:53 Post #56 |
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the tp4 was/is just like the tp5!! not sure if it was a 4 section though?? i just like the tp4/5 idea of the metal whip on top! should be strong. |
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| Deleted User | Wednesday, 22. December 2010, 00:50 Post #57 |
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The Thunderpole 3 from 1986 onwards http://www.thunderpole.co.uk/25-years.html |
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| Deleted User | Wednesday, 22. December 2010, 00:52 Post #58 |
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wish you could find one now for £25 brand new............LOL
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| Deleted User | Wednesday, 22. December 2010, 10:06 Post #59 |
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Unless the snow messes it up 23.12.2010 should be TP5 Day Here And that would mean 2 days from UK to DL You can Only Congratulate them if and when it lands
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| Deleted User | Wednesday, 22. December 2010, 10:57 Post #60 |
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I'm not sure what your argument is Simon, are you suggesting that in order to make a comment about a product I must first buy it? I would have thought that having owned a number of 1/2λ vertical antennas that I'm capable of making a judgement, they are offering something different I'll give them that and I genuinely hope they do well, I'm all for promoting British products, I'm not all for promoting BS. As for buying an antenna because of it's gain, yes I do, as do many people, why wouldn't they, we all like our signal to go as far as it can, and if it wasn't so important why would companies make fallacious claims about gain, word of mouth is how the A99 came to be such a fantastic multi-band antenna, if people only knew the half of it Gain, and angle of radiation, are very important factors when considering an antenna, especially if it's DX one is looking for, to ignore them doesn't make sense, if one is considering a beam antenna then such things as Gain, Angle of radiation, Beam width, front to Back ratio, Side rejection etc all play their part, a recommendation is one thing, doing some research, and having an understanding of the figures, is equally important. I look forward to seeing both yours and Dave's videos
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gluwein anyone?
My issue is that if they are prepared to lie about that, what else are they lying about, should we believe any of their claims, mind you, honesty has never been at the heart of antenna sales






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